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Before they gave the information to the fisa court. whether they were straight with the fisa court when they were describing who steele was. importantly and something that hasn't been covered much, what about the information that steele was transmitting to the justice department and the f.b.i. through ohr after the first fisa application >> sandra: i'm sure we'll hear more about what was exchanged in that room. issa came on earlier what they learned of ohr's explanation of the dossier. here is what he told us. >> one of the things that bruce ohr us, it took a little work to get it, was he clea...

For dossier and they never told the fisa judge that it was hillary clinton bought and paid for. they put a footnote in, it may be political. >> it's arguably six different felonies for doing that the kramer thing is interesting. he appeared before the intelligence committee december 19th and he said i know who steele's sources are the committee said who are they? he said i'm not going to tell you. slap him with a subpoena to make him tell him now he invokes the fifth. why would he do that? maybe he didn't know the sources and tell the truth which is why he may be invoking the fifth. it's hard ...

Forr dossier, and they never tod the fisa judge that it was hillary clinton bought and paid for. they put a footnote in that it may be political. >> is arguably six different felonies for doing that. but the kramer thing is interesting because he appeared before the intelligence committee, december 19th, and he said i know who steele's sources are. and the committee said who are they? and he said, i'm not going to tell you. so they slap him withot a subpoa to make him tell them. and now he invokes the fifth. why would he do that? maybe he doesn't know the sources and didn't tell the truth, whi...

Chris officer steele. was he working with the fbi? any conspiracy they could thread into it. and simpson went into them like a cheap carnival trick. >> this is a larger problem about what a lot of these are about. a fixation on process not substance. and a partisan approach to the process, which is what you're saying. simpson is saying, remember, this was originally funded by republicans. then picked up by democrats which is when steele came. the mandate was to simply find information, not a particular agenda. he reaches out to the fbi. he's concerned about a national security issue. this is s...

Democratic senator dianne feinstein ignored her republican colleagues. cnn's manu jaju live in washington with more. what's the fall out? >> reporter: chris, they will release the transcript despite furious objections from skhubg grassley who warned it would undermine the investigation. according to simpson, steele was so alarmed he felt obligated to alert the fbi in the summer of 2016. now, simpson said this in the transcript, chris said he was very concerned about whether this represented a national security threat and said he thought we were obligated to