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She was the democratic nominee for congress in virginia's first congressional district in the 2010 election. ben moore, former director of the pac progress texas, and co-author of "bush's brain: how karl rove made george w. bush president." how has the fallout in texas been around this story from wayne slater? >> i don't think there's been big fallout yet, chris. but, remember, we're talking, if you're a woman in this state and you've watched wendy's assent politically, you're watching somebody who did from the trailer park, whether if the csi forensic guys are saying, excuse me, ma'am, was it...

Joining me now, chris ball, co-host of msnbc's, "the cycle," which airs weekdays at 3:00 p.m. eastern. she was the democratic nominee for congress in virginia's first congressional district in the 2010 election. ben moore, former director of the pac progress texas, and co-author of "bush's brain: how karl rove made george w. bush president." how has the fallout in texas been around this story from wayne slater? >> i don't think there's been big fallout yet, chris. but, remember, we're talking, if you're a woman in this state and you've watched wendy's assent politically, you're watching somebo...

Big fallout yet, chris. but, remember, we're talking, if you're a woman in this state and you've watched wendy's assent politically, you're watching somebody who did from the trailer park, whether if the csi forensic guys are saying, excuse me, ma'am, was it two months or two years, she came from the trailer park, she went to harvard, her husband, who wayne interviewed extensively, as you noted, was very fond of her. she gets out of harvard, she becomes a state senator in this state, where it's very difficult for a woman to succeed politically. what i'd suggest is that if this were a man in te...