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Of which you just made this case that they have done it, that actually this is an effort of russia propaganda, that this is a russian intelligence propaganda campaign in order to get people like you to say these things about ukraine. they're trying to frame ukraine. you apparently were briefed about this in the united states senate by intelligence officials. are you at all concerned you're doing russian intelligence work here? >> i was not briefed. >> you didn't attend that briefing? you didn't attend the briefing on that? >> no. >> okay. >> i wasn't briefed. dr. hill is entitled to her opinio...

Four states why this matters to them and try to shift the poll numbers. those are the two options. i think they should fold it up because i think political opinion is unmovable on this and they should have a presidential campaign. >> betsy, it is -- this is not a split decision organically. the republicans spent millions to get this split decision. >> and house democratic leadership is cognizant of the fact based on a conversation with a leadership aide i had yesterday that they don't expect getting more than the mid 50s in terms of support for impeachment. they see this as sort of permanently...

There's a young woman who has taken two years off from going to stanford, her name is katie and she's been part of the climate strikes and the future coalition, and she said collaboration is the key to our survival. young people get it. they understand what this is about. but they don't have a vote in the board room. they don't have a vote in congress. they don't have stock in the fossil fuel companies. and the fact is that there are a huge number of jobs to be created here. fastest growing job in america today is solar power technician. second fastest, wind technician. i mean, coal is going d...

>> i don't think it's an opinion. i think it's a fact. i believe the reporting by the politico magazine. >> you just said fiona hill gave an opinion. >> i believe the report -- i believe the reporting by the financial times. i believe the reporting by the washington examiner. you should read the articles, chuck, they're well documented. and i believe that a ukrainian district court in december of 2018 slapped down several ukrainian officials for meddling in our election as a violation of ukrainian law. i didn't report those facts. reputable journalists reported those facts. does that mean that...

Economist, in the washington examiner, even on cbs, that the prime minister of ukraine, the interior minister, the ukrainian ambassador to the united states, the head of the ukrainian anti-corruption league, all meddled in the election on social media and otherwise. they worked with the dnc operative. >> did you -- >> in fact, can i make one more point, chuck? >> sure. >> in fact, in december of 2018, a ukrainian court ruled that ukrainian officials had violated ukrainian law by meddling in our election, and that was reported in "the new york times." >> were you -- >> now, is there meddling --...