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For the apology and prompted another apology from barton. so immediately you saw that everybody understood the politics of this. the politics are hatched from from incredibly zell louis commitment to -- i don't know what it's too, frankly. the oil companies are these awful crony capitalist enterprises anyway. you're not defending a little firm somewhere behavely plugging away, but there is a reflective, tribal affinity to defend business in these kind of conflicts. that's not going to go away. no matter how bad the politics are, that's still there. there are people in the right wing media urgi...

Everybody understood the politics of this. the politics are hatched from from incredibly zealous ideological commitment to -- i don't know what it's too, frankly. the oil companies are these awful crony capitalist enterprises anyway. you're not defending a little firm somewhere bravely plugging away, but there is a reflective, tribal affinity to defend business in these kind of conflicts. that's not going to go away. no matter how bad the politics are, that's still there. there are people in the right wing media urging that on because that's what they believe. >> when you get to somebody like ...