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Explanation as to why you think that happens. >> well, yes. so some of the other irs workers who e-mailed me said of course we're going to support democrats. democrats support civil servants. democrats support public employee unions. and another one said why would i support the party of grover norquist who wants to shrink the government down to the size where it could drown in a bathtub? these are government employees who belong to a union. they are naturally going to be aligned with democrats, and that's problematic. jon: yeah. as we have seen from this evidence that the irs has been throwing...

Expensive conferences, likes to have those free baseball tickets and presidential suites and doesn't necessarily want to see smaller government and accountability? >> reporter: i don't know if it's too much of a stretch or not. we'll get the full ig report on the spending of the i.r.s. tomorrow and that will list everything. what we've learned already is pretty damaging. as you remember about the gsa scandal, when you had that guy in the tub with the sangria, the image does a lot, and these videos on every news channel about the line dancing, and the star trek, and gilligan's island, does not ...

It's a bit of dash ash let's not say a sideshow but a different element to the big question, and that is how far does the -- does the chain go as far as who directed these i.r.s. agents to target those tea party and conservative groups. i mean, that is the big thing that the house oversight and government reform committee will be looking at. but this financial element, i mean $50 million on 220 conferences, you have i.r.s. agents, directors staying in presidential suites for $3,500 a night, and these are the folks who are getting tax dollars that are spending tax dollars like that, so it will ...

If it can happen to republicans when democrats are in power then it can happen to democrats when republicans are in power. if we get to that point then we are no longer the united states of america he we are a third world country run by generals in mirrored sunglasses. jon: a little bit later in the hour we'll be talking with a columnist from the washington times who did an investigation of political combinations. tim carney. >> rivets i can work. unbelievably good work. jon: found in the 2012 election cycle every single contribution he could locate was given from those i.r.s. employees either...

We are live on capitol hill. lawmakers are about to hear from the new acting i.r.s. commissioner amid questions about big spending by the tax agency, including $50 million it shelled out for employee conferences. some of that money going for videos like this one featuring i.r.s. workers line dancing. and then there is this one, a parity of the star trek tv show. the videos paid for by your tax dollars and recorded at i.r.s. offices, all this on the heels of the political profiling scandal where the i.r.s. admits skraou croute nicing conservative groups. a foamer adviser to president obama says...