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alex marquardt in washington. thank you so much for joining us today. we begin this hour with new details surrounding the indictment or former president donald trump. he is now the first ex president in us history to face criminal charges. trump is expected to travel to new york on monday, then surrender and appear in a manhattan court on tuesday. that's when charges against him of which sources tell us there are more than 30. that's when they will be. formally unveiled. attorneys for trump say he has quote ready to fight and will not accept a plea deal ahead of his appearance in cou...

Trump team genuinely sees this as an opportunity as they get deeper into this campaign? in the short term. certainly look, everything about the trump presidency was all about merchandizing. it was almost like spaceballs, the flame thrower. there was a donald donald trump product in everything surrounding his administration in his campaign will continue doing that short term. this can be successful for them, but i don't think anybody knows long term in the republican primary. if this makes him a martyr or not, certainly if we're in a general election, as karen described independent voters don't...