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He's a real advocate on this issue. historically is that the kind of thing that moves parties? >> it can. i think there is going to come a day in both our life times but it might be years from now when the republican party will come around. that is where society is heading. but that might be a decade from now or 15 years. i think it has to be somebody with currency in the evangelical community. the number is so low. there are a lot of factors but about half the republican primary voters nationally in elections call themselves evangelical christians and if you look within that community, middle...

Have an outsized impact on what their party does? i mean, there's nobody more central to the power in that party than he is. he's a real advocate on this issue. historically is that the kind of thing that moves parties? >> it can. depends on the leaders. i think there is going to come a day in both our life times but it might be years from now when the republican party will come around on this. that's just where society is heading, but that might be a decade from now, it might be 15 years from now. i think it has to be somebody with currency in the evangelical community. the number is so low. ...

Their party does? i mean there is nobody more central to the power in that party than he is. he's a real advo skacate on thi issue. historically is that the kind of thing that moves parties? >> it can. i think there is going to come a day in both our life times but it might be years from now when the republican party will come around. that is where society is heading. but that might be a decade from now or 15 years. i think it has to be somebody with currency in the evangelical community. the number is so low. there are a lot of factors but about half the republican primary voters nationally i...