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lawrence, i'm gobsmacked by some of these numbers. i'm just gonna leave it to you while i scratch my head. aly you >>, know that thing happens once in awhile where one of our great guests guests really is getting warmed up right when we have to go to commercial break because that's life on commercial television. that happened last week with yale professor david blight, who is an expert on the 14th amendment. he knows everything about how it came to be, the congressional debate about it. we are bringing back tonight finishes thoughts about that. >> that is worth watching because the...

>> jill, my friend, thank you for being with me. coming up, a preview of what's to come next week for judge ketanji brown jackson, as she looks to make history. plus, a little bit about my personal connection to judge jackson. and speaking of supreme court justices, there is more wild reporting about clarence thomas' wife ginni thomas. this time, it's about just how influential she was inside the trump white house. those details in just a few minutes, we will be right back. k the world is full of make or break moments. especially if you have postmenopausal osteoporosis and a high risk for fr...

>> reporter: so the election is over and you feel good because you ran a fair, clean race but then things changed. >> it's one thing to lose when everything was fair on both sides. but it's another thing to lose when you've been cheated. >> reporter: do you feel cheated? >> absolutely. i do. >> reporter: what part makes you feel cheated? >> the more and more -- the more and more i hear that ballots were not returned, the more i hear that people requested ballots that were never sent to their home, mocks me say -- and whether or not you cheated me for five votes or 1,000 votes, a cheat is a che...

Mccray dallas, didn't he? >> based on record. >> reporter: so the election is over and you feel good because you ran a fair, clean race but then things changed. >> it's one thing to lose when everything was fair on both sides. but it's another thing to lose when you've been cheated. >> reporter: do you feel cheated? >> absolutely. i do. >> reporter: what part makes you feel cheated? >> the more and more -- the more and more i hear that ballots were not returned, the more i hear that people requested ballots that were never sent to their home, mocks me say -- and whether or not you cheated me f...