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Voted no. as i like to say, the amount who voted no, they voted hell no. >> that is right, how no. but secretaries really, three days after the kansas vote, indiana basically said, hold my beer, and instituted a ban on abortion, at contraception with some exceptions. my question is, could the kansas legislature follow suit? >> well, what's really important about the no vote was that we had states all around those who immediately banned abortion after dobbs. missouri, oklahoma. we said over and over again during the no campaign to voters, this is what the kansas legislator wants to do. this is ...

Groups. so, that can't bus help them. >> right. john, i have been asking everyone, and this is for you and elites. i want to get listen before we go to break, it is a sound you to play on the other side of the break. but abortion. the voting kansas, red state kansas voting to maintain abortion rights in kansas. but, then three days later, the legislature in indiana voted a near ban on abortion in that state. is abortion going to be about galvanizing issue at the polls, particularly for democrats in november? >> 110%. i think that these lopsided votes, by the voters themselves in kansas, and th...

Ban abortion. and yet in indiana, the state legislature instituting a near total ban with some exceptions on abortion. will abortion be an earthquake type issue for voters, going into the midterm election? >> kansas will certainly suggest. so if they would say the kansas is not a state's progressive, necessarily. it is a large number of people of color in kansas. if you look at the white population, progressive whites are roughly 40% of the population. so that calculation usually means that -- in kansas is very hard for democrats. so for that ballot measure to play at the way that it did, give...

Attempts. he was successful, in both. certainly democrats have seemed concerned about this race. but this comes down to whether or not ron johnson is a good senator, he is going to lose. >> and steve, give us the lay of the land on the role that abortion will now play in the november elections. you just heard charlie say that folks don't quite know just how much of an impact this is going to have. well, what do you say? >> i was surprised this week to see republicans on capitol hill say this is a wake up call for them. in kansas for example, when they saw the margin, the fact that it was ready...

>> in ten seconds we have left then, charlie, does that to lieutenant governor mandala barnes, that is benefit to unseat the republican incumbent senator ron johnson? >> it changes the dynamic of the elections, no doubt about it. as does ron johnson's bizarre embrace of making social security and medicare discretionary spending. i mean, if that is not the definition of politically suicidal, i don't know what is. you have both candidates who will be defined by tens of millions of dollars in negative advertising. i think it is unclear how this will play out, especially giving the shifting ground...