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Would get an abortion. how likely is that? what might that look like? >> well, it would depend on what the individual states try to pass, and what we know from the past is that a lot of women have illegal abortion. that's why doctors are so against laws like this because, for example, parkland hospital, which a lot of people know because that's where john f. kennedy was taken after he was shot, that hospital had a ward called the iob ward, the infected obstetrics ward, and it was for women who had done self-abortion, often not doing it well at all, or people who'd had illegal abortion, and tho...

Thr the determining factor. there were restriction bus hayed that to do with how big the halls had to be in an abortion facility. what kind of credentials the person had to have. they didn't make abortion illegal. they made it more difficult to access. and those were just overturned by the supreme court. so you're going to have this just -- it's going to be like playing some kind of game where you're constantly trying to watch what are the various states doing. >> since we have you here finally, what are we missing in this conversation? >> well, i think it's partially looking at the fact that ...

Heartbeat bill are confident the law will stand counting on president-elect trump's promise he'll appoint only anti-abortion justices to the bench. nbc's anne thompson has more. >> whose choice? >> my choice! >> reporter: the battleground over abortion rights is now in ohio. >> six-week abortion ban will allow it all together. >> lives are literally on the chopping blocks. >> reporter: this week the state legislature passed one of the most restrictive abortion bills in the nation. under the heartbeat bill, abortions in ohio could be banned after a fetal heartbeat is detected. that can happen a...

They were going to colorado. they were going to mexico where will abortion was illegal, but readily available. so i'm afraid that what's going to happen is that we're going to have once again this movement of women with means across the country to where they have to go. and, in fact, trump has already said that. he's said, you know, if abortion was illegal, women would just have to move across state lines. but the sad part to me is that some women have the ability to do that and some don't. and he doesn't seem to be recognizing that not everybody has a big car and a private helicopter and a pr...

Case made history and gave women the constitutional right to abortion in 1973. sarah, thank you for coming in for us on this sunday. what's your reaction here to the heartbeat bill, this six weeks? >> well, i think it's unlikely that it will become law. but frankly, we're all guessing because we have one vacancy as the other person pointed out, then you've got several judges, one who's 83, one who's 80, one who's 78. so of course we are praying for their good health because they're on our side and the side of women and their ability to make their own decisions. but if you look back at what the...