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Charles, assesses the state of play in the house of representatives. >> what the democrats have succeeded in doing is to of the upper hand in the initiative. if the republicans leave now, things as they are, the democrats are not going to save the republicans and save the house. they are going to do nothing. we are going to go to january 1, there will be a tax hike, the end of a holiday tax hike imposed every day and they will be hammering on the republicans in the house and ultimately the republicans will cave. >> the republican house stubbornly refused again to vote on the tax cut that passe...

Charles, assesses the state of play in the house of representatives. >> what the democrats have succeeded in doing is to of the upper hand in the initiative. if the republicans leave now, things as they are, the democrats are not going to save the republicans and save the house. they are going to do nothing. we are going to go to january 1, there will be a tax hike, the end of a holiday tax hike imposed every day and they will be hammering on the republicans in the house and ultimately the republicans will cave. >> the republican house stubbornly refused again to vote on the tax cut that passe...

Remember, bill, republicans shut down the government in '94, they went on to keep the house and kept it for years after. so i don't think they think this is a big deal if it happens, i think they know the american people are on their side. bill: but you just made the point, too, that you think republicans will cave. >> little ate b bill: the # seven house freshmen, they've not moved. >> i think they will kraef a little bit -- a cave a little bit to prevent a shutdown. i don't think a shutdown is going to happen. bill look at john kerry on republican. sue: i don't believe what we have from the ...

Looking underneath the value of the piece of paper they're buying? it's the fault of those who bought it they lost their money, not the fault of those who sold it. these are the riskiest instruments on the market. someone is always betting for them and against them. for the government, which didn't regulate them at the time, three years later n2007. >> shepard: you know why. >> to come back and say you shouldn't have continue shouldn't have done it, this the. same sec that let -- >> shepard: the government is trying to cover itself and is covering itself. >> you know, there's a theory in the e...

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