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Now. there are a number of democrats, people on the left, organizations who are not happy with those religious protections and so what we're saying is log cabin republicans is if you support religious liberty, you need to support this version of the employment nondiscrimination act because it protects the liberties. if the democrats pass this bill as they would like to, they would run roughshod over the religious liberties. >> you believe -- take for instance, the proposed toomey -- the portman amendment, and the toomey amendment, you think they should be allowed to do that, to say we don't wa...

Had a child who was diabetic. so the personal experience -- >> it does fare and inform. i'll put you on the spot like i put gregory on the spot, do you think in this congress that enda is going to end up passing? >> i think it is a long shot. but talking about the personal experiences, what i think you're going to see is lgbt advocates taking this back to the home states of those lawmakers who don't yet support it and trying to personalize it. bringing out someone who served openly in the military as gay or lesbian and being, like, look, they served openly but now that they're a civilian, they...

To mind to legislation like enda? >> well, you know, first, a couple of things come to mind regarding the marriage issue. you say the numbers are low for republican support for civil marriage for same sex couples, the numbers are growing. the fact is also that there is considerably more support for civil marriage for same sex couples among republican millennials. there is definitely a generation gap there. also, i will say that my discussions, whether it is about civil marriage for committed same sex couples with republicans or the employment nondiscrimination act, the fact that religious libe...

And orrin hatch is a prominent mormon and the mormon religion is not apparently not as aggressive against this as they were against gay rights in california pretty recently. i think religious organizations are, if not becoming actively for enda, you know, they're neutral. i think the pieces are in place. i look at this, in my lifetime, this seems to have happened with the speed of light, i recognize that people who are, you know, directly and intimately associated with this issue feel like it has taken forever. if you date the beginnings to the abza and koch proposal, and then look at the suff...

Religious organization that would be applicable to the employment nondiscrimination act. we have 50 years of case law that backs up the religious exemptions. there is precedent there. if we passed toomty amendment, it would have created actually more of a gray area, would have actually created more litigation. for that reason, we were not supporters. >> jonathan capehart. you mentioned republican millennials a second ago. and it made me think of the gop autopsy that we were talking about in the previous block where, you know, quite a bit of ink was paid to the fact that, you know, for the repu...