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About that feeling after all these what's a quarter century ing a. >> i feel more strongly today, . >> i feel more strongly today, chris, than i did when i actually signed the pardon document. and i'm pleased to see that the public are now supportive of what i did in that very tough decision. >> has a woman president -- has that time arrived, obviously talking about secretary clinton here. >> well, i think it's always been here. we should have considered a long time ago women were equal to men in the right to hold public office in this country. i'm not taking a position but just to show americ...

Just to show america lacks behind women in public office and equal pay. >> every election is a choice. if you have to run against the ideal if it's a referendum every one of us will get beat. we'd have nobody in office because there's no such thing as the perfect public servant. >> how many kids here want to go into politic snz. >> that's a pretty good number. >> are they right? >> it continues to be a way to serve that i think can be noble. it's hard. it can be frustrating. you've got to have a thick skin. but i tell you, the satisfaction you get when you've passed a law or you've taken an ex...