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Come on. it's never been about public health and safety. it's about the essence of believing that you can control everything around you and that the virus is sort of your weapon in exerting that control. listen, this stopped being about public health and safety the minute in june of 2020 they decided that you could not go out and rally against covid lockdowns but could go out and rally for george floyd. the minute that occurred it was no longer a public health issue it's a political issue. >> lawrence: i'm curious, ben, when it comes to public health crisis that people were more likely to comp...

Project that hate to me. >> no, i just hate you. >> i can see this is going no where. >> the c block is next. it is sponsored by teleprompter. thanks, teleprompter. you are the best. thanks, greg, but are you just saying that because i told you to? of course i think you are the best, teleprompter. you are a sweetheart greg, and i am not trying to put words in your mouth. >> you could never but words in my underwear. made you say underwear. >> that was a long way for nothing. will humanity be packing up and moving to the moon? no? that settles that story.