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A friend of his says he was a normal person. he liked the u.s. and he was like a smiley person. and this sort of information about people who commit such terror acts are common. so i don't think the government would have been able to do anything to prevent the coming of such a person. it's such a random thing. >> we're getting a terrible detail reported to us just now about of the eight victims who were killed in this attack, five of them were from argentina, and, graham, that would indicate that this was a tourist group of some kind. and that's a tourist area where they were attacked today. w...

And has become more religious over time, although right next door to his house is an area mosque. and people who spoke with my colleague brian thompson said he was not seen very often there. so unclear in terms of where or how he became radicalized, whether it was online. they'll search his computers. they'll search his phone. but again, a note in the van according to law enforcement officials praising isis, saying he was doing this for isis. and that is why so early on they knew this attack was an act of terror versus if you remember a few months back a car drove through times square that was...

Magazine and isis' subsequent urges of their followers. the key for investigators is was there agents of influence here domestically that touched him? was there aiders and abettors that helped him, or was it just radicalization from the internet? i think those are the big questions they'll be facing tonight. >> and jim, how did they proceed from what they have now? i mean, we seem to have from jonathan dienst now a better understanding of his residential pattern over these two different addresses that we've been hearing about. but if he is not talking, where do the investigators go next? >> we...

Out in ohio as well. and spending time in florida. i don't have clarity yet on the tampa connection except he spent some time living and perhaps working down there. most of the information we're having right now is from what has taken place up here in new york. >> jonathan dienst, i know it's been an incredibly busy day for you. nobody works the cases like you do. we really appreciate you joining us tonight. >> thank you. >> we're joined now by jim cavanaugh, a retired atf special agent in charge and now an msnbc law enforcement analyst. jim, what do you make of this case as you read it so far...

That isis is not succeeding on the ground in iraq and syria? this is not a good period for them. they are losing ground. does that increase the likelihood of this kind of attack here? >> no. i think this attack is a reminder of two things. isis has just lost its second capital in syria, the main capital, the first city that it controlled in 2014, raqqah. and this attack happened soon after that. that indicates that people are not even -- either they're not paying attention, or because of an a point i keep saying which is the -- whatever isis does on the ground no longer affects its appeal outs...