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Defense official. the president tweeted we have defeated isis in syria. 34 does the intelligence support that claim? >> not the position of the u.s. military and intelligence community that isis is defeated, militarily defeated inside syria. isis restrategizing according to some officials, launching more attacks. isis is operating in the eastern parts of syria. what the president has decided is that the 2,000 or sore u.s. ground forces in syria mainly special forces are coming out as soon as possible. that is what we are being told. it raises some fundamental questions. number one, what will h...

Report put it at 30,000. how can the president claim that isis is defeated in syria? >> here is the thing. i will reinforce some of the things both nick paton walsh and barbara starr said. this was very surprising to me not only the announcement, but the timing. i don't understand why it is happening now. the u.s. forces have just started an offensive with the syrian defense forces and the curds against the town which is considered an isis stronghold. u.s. forces in another town in southern syria that the russians have said they would like u.s. forces out of there. they have stated that severa...

One more time. what is interesting that has ntd been brought up yet is there seems to be a transactional element to this, too. over the last days the u.s. has sealed the deal with turkey for $3.5 billion worth of patriot missile systems that were signed yesterday by our state department. i'm sure that played a role a little bit in this. >> understood. turkey is our n.a.t.o. ally. the vantage point of someone who just returned from northeastern syria, you just saw this on the ground. you have been talking about the isis pushes back in iraq, the sleeper cells trying to activate the real isis ris...

>> so you're saying we are going to rely on iran in part? >> i didn't say that. i said there are other countries in the middle east fighting isis along with the united states. >> i want to move on to the budget debate. that is atop your agenda. a short term continuing resolution is coming here. not clear whether -- it looks like the president is not going to get his $5 billion for the wall. you have said the wall is necessary. do you believe the president has let you down on this? >> no. i think i'm biassed, of course. i think mrs. pelosi let us down. i did not believe from day one that mrs. p...

Isis put an -- as she was leaving the city and she survived. in the end, these are the kinds of real threats that local forces are facing every single day. if you go through the cemeteries, those are the young women and the young men who have put their lives on the line in the fight against isis. so the fragile stability which has allowed moms to send their kids to school which has allowed mothers to tell their sons not to join isis. all of that stability which has allowed the u.s. to keep an eye on iran, on russia and on the syrian regime and keep isis from reemerging, that is what i think is...