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rhetoric. they're entertained by him, excited by him. that's something that jeb's reasoned arguments aren't going to effect. >> you say he is the teflon candidate, reagan was the teflon president. if ronald reagan ran in this conservative environment, do you think he would ever get the nomination? right? for the same reason that trump is citing when it comes to reagan's past, he had more liberal -- never mind the past, when he was in office. gave amnesty to illegal immigration and so on. >> jeb is saying i am a conservative, you don't believe i am conservative, the conservatives that don't like me in the republican party, i am conservative, i am more conservative than this guy. we have to see in your upcoming debate whether jeb continues to take on trump and the others lay back or what's going to occur there. will jeb do attacking on trump for everybody else? >> see if that line of attack works. i have to say this because i love it.
you outside. >> john, will jeb be an easy target for the other nine candidates at tomorrow's debate? >> up to a point, yes. although the other nine candidates have -- or at least eight of the other nine candidates have a bigger problem with mr. trump. so, while some of them may want to steer some fire toward jeb bush because he's in this number two, number three position, my sense is that bush is likely, as you're pointing out with some of these clips to be the one that sort of steps on himself, to be the one that causes his own problems, rather than somebody attacking him. if he is attacked, the likelihood, that attack will come from donald trump. as you've just illustrated kind of painfulfully, he may not be ready for it. >> is the dirty little secret that jeb bush is just a bad politician? >> well, he did get elected in
bush politically don't consider him as the latest member of this very, very powerful political family to seek higher office. and in the meantime every member of his powerful political family would like to have a word with you about sending jeb some money. those recent overtures come at a critical time because today is the last day of the fund-raising quarter. it's only money that comes in by midnight tonight that presidential contenders can count as having raised in this first quarter and the bush running for president pack is going to use this first quarter deadline to try to blow all other mainstream contenders out of the race through sheer financial intimidation. what we're about to hit in 2.5 hours, at midnight tonight is going to be the key test. first key test. the candidates that are trying
in paper back. one of the things i said is jeb bush is raising money for running for president by saying that saying he's running against you, which must be very flattering. senator scott brown once raised money by saying he was running against me in massachusetts. >> will jeb end up running against you? >> it's not like i haven't been thinking about it. sorry. what do you make of that him using you that way? >> i think what he's really trying to do is to say, um, you know there's a whole scary, powerful energy out there, and you guys better fight back. >> yes. >> and my view is hey, listen, it's like i said we are out there and we are getting strong and we're getting stronger every day. big financial institutions, you started out talking about that. look, i just want two things from the big banks. this is really true.
compared to his brother or his father. he says i am my own man and the next thing his campaign did after that speech is that he got his mom to start asking people for money on his behalf. former first lady barbara bush putting out the fund-raising appeal for her son jeb and right after that they had jeb bush's brother start asking people for money on his behalf. doing a fund-raiser for him and last week his father started asking people for money on his behalf. former president bush sending out a fund-raising appeal on behalf of jeb. steve joked at the time his joke was who is next. george p. bush? well, low and behold yes. george p. bush jeb bush's son, now the texas land commissioner is also now fund-raising for his dad's run for the presidency. so yes, jeb bush is his own man. when it comes time to consider
and now 16 years later that is the same strategy employed by his brother jeb trying to obtain the same office. smoother them in money. overwhelm all would be rivals with how much more money you have. now the jeb folks get annoyed when you point this out. when you point out this is the same strategy his brother used to win the nomination. the last time someone from his nuclear family won the presidency. he explained he doesn't like the comparisons to his family. he wants to be seen in politics as his own man. >> i love my brother. i love my dad. actually love my mother as well. i hope that's okay. and i admire their service to the nation and the difficult decisions they had to make but i'm my own man and my views are shaped by my own thinking and my own experiences. >> jeb bush saying last month that even though he loves them as family when it comes to politics he does not want to be