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Their goal is to have both those powers. >> from the secretary of state's stance, you have to wonder, mike pompeo has been telling the president it is one thing for them to have stopped the missile testing. that's great. they can always restart that and we don't know where a lot of these missiles and other weaponry are. and he has urged the president to kind of hold their feet to the fire. he has as well. what is holding their feet to the fire mean? what would have to be verified to leave this summit and score it a success? >> nuclear diplomacy historically a long and drawn out process no matt...

Will launchs. you start to see a commitment and dismantling of the processing facilities. get an actual definition on paper by agreement of what denuclearization is. the long term dialogue between these two countries is economic transformation and no coincidence they're in vietnam. the per capita income of a korean citizen is 1300 a year. vietnam's is twice that. south korea's is 20 times that. what you try to do is show them there is a way out of this hole. the other thing to remember is that the big win would be to have them realize that holding nuclear weapons is actually a strategic liabil...