And has been testified about in congress, it is public, in which he calls out the attorney general for not properly conveying the weight, the seriousness, the specifics of his findings there. so there's already a public disagreement. of course, the difference between one in writing and one -- a spoken public disagreement is different. >> yes, i think that's right. and jim, this may be the last time we hear from mueller. given his desire to stay out of the spotlight, to stay out of politics, you know, this may be the first and may be the last statement. we'll have to wait and see. it's clearly ...