MSNBC MSNBC Live With Craig Melvin November 15, 2019 16:40:00
Michael cohen and donald trump is an unindicted co-conspirator again, not in a hush money scheme but an illegal shakedown in ukraine? >> that's possible. you have to remember the president has something that most subjects or targets don't have which is he has the power to pardon. if you're thinking that rudy giuliani might flip, it is possible. but it's a very different calculation in this kind of case than in a normal case. >> are you saying he'll pardon him? i want to understand your point. you think the president will preemptively pardon rudy? >> not preemptively. it's enough, if i clam up,...