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William co-ing know it's what it's like to be vetted for a key position. also a republican serving in the cabinet of a democratic president, bill clinton. secretary cohen joining us now here in washington. so thank you so much for being generous with your time here. i wonder what you think about his leading contender for defense secretary? this is retired general james mattis. he has pretty good word of mouth. what do you think? >> i am very impressed with him. known him a long time. she a great warrior and also a great scholar. so the combination of being in an intellectual and a soldier's so...

Support from both parties. you've seen a good reception of him from both republicans and democrats in the national security space. that's good. but you would have to have congress vote on waiver to allow a uniformed general who has not been retired seven years to run the pentagon. why is this important? back in 1950, actually '47, passing a law because as a nation, important to have civilian control of the military in the wake of world war ii enacted a law. interestingly enough, immediately enacts add waiver for george marshall to the defense secretary, but it was since then, there hasn't been...

>> what about this meeting with mitt romney? how serious is this consideration of him for secretary of state? >> reporter: i think it's very serious. considering the past problems these two men have had with each other, as you pointed out at one point, romney calling trump a fraud. and trump striking back, basically saying that he choked when he ran for president. but, look, in politics you'd be surprised how many times people who have been add odds suddenly come together for whatever reason. you heard trump and saw that trump even tweeted about his meeting with romney. so i think that one is ...