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William ran in and joe just snatched him up and ran downstairs and called 911. i stayed with jeff. i stayed with jeff until the paramedics and police came but he was already gone. >> for two years debby johnston released her son was being bullied. she had brought it to the school's attention and nothing was done. >> shepard: no legal action that i can find any evidence of and no school action either, right? >> that's right. the school, the problem was at the time there were no laws within the state of florida that made any of the boy who was bullying jeffrey, made any actions actually illegal....

Down, kids believe their piers before they believe their own eyes or their parents. >> by june 29th, 2005, jeffrey just couldn't take it anymore. >> we went upstairs to look in his room when we opened the door, we looked. we opened it wide and looked in the other direction toward his closet and saw him hanging. and joey screamed and ran over and lifted him down. i remember just hovering above. i could hear someone screaming no over and over again. it was like i was looking down on it. i didn't even realize it was me screaming. william ran in and joe just

If those laws were in place in 2005, she believes her boy, jeffrey, would be here. listen to this. >> jeff would still be here. jeff would be in his second year of college. and our lives would be so much different. >> the pain of a parent that will never ever, one assumes, go away. >> shepard: your heart breaks for her. how are they? >> well, they're doing okay. i mean you can see the pain lodged on her face throughout that interview. but it's not just her, it's also the other kids. she has a boy, two boys, joey, who came into the room and found his brother hanging, he's the elder brother. the...