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It goes against, you know common sense to say that i'm fearing for my life but yet ime i'll jump within a couple of feet from you and then start shooting. it didn't make sense. the judge obviously wanted to exonerate this officer and found the way he could do it but it didn't make sense to us. >> william, what's your response to this agreement? let's go back to the agreement between cleveland and the justice department. what's your response to the agreement? >> well, i think it's an extraordinary agreement. it's extremely comprehensive. it's 105 pages long and covers almost every aspect of pol...

Wrongs, but it could help prevent some of the worst abuses in the future. joining me now are cleveland city councilman jeffrey johnson and william yoem answer who served as acting attorney general for civil rights in the justice department. thank you both for being here. >> pleasure. >> thanks for having me reverend al. >> councilman let me go to you first. i'll be in cleveland this friday keynoting a real for the clergy and meeting with members of the community. what is the mood in cleveland right now? >> well right now it's a mixed emotions, reverend al. we're looking forward to having you b...