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He came in three years after the stock market crash and everything bad already happened and he can get credit for the rise. obama comes in as they are going off the cliff, right, and he could say it would have been so much worse if i had not been here, and the timing doesn't make it so easy for him to sell what he has done. >> you put in that a win column for him. >> yeah. >> let's talk about some of his losses or failings, actually, and he promised he would be a post partisan president, and spae spoiler alert, that did not happen and he engaged in partisansh partisanship, and so the tone decl...

Did we have our hair on fire that hacking took place? no. i mean that's what happens. if he can discredit the integrity of what we do here in the voting process and electing folks, he is winning. >> we have the president-elect of the united states publicly condemning the intelligence services on which he will have to rely as president. if i'm running that covert action, i'm putting it in the win column. >> it's quite possible that the republican party has been exploited and donald trump himself might have been exploited over the years by russian intelligence. >> so a lot of talk about the alle...

Russians were messing with our heads, right. i am not prepared to personally conclude that they were trying to pick a winner. jake, i am not doing that on any evidence either. i just thinking that the ability to predict how that information would affect the american political process, you know, both campaigns used that event for their own talking points. the ability to predict that is so difficult. i think they've been quite hyapy to sow the confusion that we've just seen. i called this a covert influence campaign. it has succeeded beyond all expectations. look at what we are doing now because...

Did we have our hair on fire that hacking took place? no. i mean that's what happens. if he can discredit the integrity of what we do here in the voting process and electing folks, he is winning. >> we have the president-elect of the united states publicly condemning the intelligence services on which he will have to rely as president. if i'm running that covert action, i'm putting it in the win column. >> it's quite possible that the republican party has been exploited and donald trump himself might have been exploited over the years by russian intelligence. >> so a lot of talk about the alle...

>> no. that -- there was no voter suppression ever coming out of our campaign. that was a comment i didn't make. >> was there voter depression? if you lower turnout in certain demographic communities it would help the numbers on your side? >> when you identify individual voters, these are the voters we need, you create content that focuses on what they want to see. you know, and in our case, we needed to show mr. trump was a change candidate. he was about urban renewal. he was about jobs and trade. when we do that, we could start to move those people over into our win column. >> your candidate...