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People didn't do a good job of selling their program, are democrats going to run on obamacare? it so much better than you think it is put to mark >> i can tell you what, i was involved in a campaign in 2012 for the president at that point in time ran for reelection on obamacare and he got reelected. i think democrats should lean into obamacare. this whole notion that it is in a death spiral that it's been debunked, it's been debunked by other experts, i would run on maintaining obamacare. >> tucker: what's the approval rating for obamacare was to mark not the individual mandate for the whole p...

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Election. >> the point is -- >> you really believe the american -- i'm sorry. >> i'm just saying, i want it add on to this. there needs to be an end game here. and if it's not defunding, which no one can figure out how that is possible. there's a great idea, just thinking outside the box, win elections. win elections. get something concrete. that's important. >> and maybe doing that by, as andrea points out, a lot of us have pointed out, let them own it. call it democrat care going forward. >> a few minutes ago that the american people learned a lot about obamacare. if there was one one hundre...

Republican party. we are a party that generally comes together on lower government, less regulations, lower taxes. so a lot of the issues that libertarians fight for, those principles, there's a huge home for them in the republican party. they make us a better party. they have helped us win elections. and i think that we would welcome more and more of them. and i think that debate is a healthy one to have within the party. >> it gets a little rough, though, when the primaries end up becoming mirror mirror on the wall, who's the most conservative of them all? and you know, the fact is there may...

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