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Make sense. it will always in the long run be more damaging than the short-term gain that one might have. the office of legal counsel, all of us who have served in the department know, is a bigtime position. you need a mature, smart, experienced person who understands this government, who understands the laws and is principled and consistent in their application of the laws. that will help the president. it will help the congress. it will help the american people. i do believe we need to work hard to have that, and i will do my best to ensure we do have it. >> one final question. in the last e...

Be more damaging than short-term gain that one might have. the office of legal counsel all of us who served in the department know is a big-time position. you need a mature, smart, sperjsed person who understands this government, who understands the laws and is principled and consistent in their application of the law. that will help the president, it will help the congress, it will help the american people. i do believe we need to work hard to have that, and i will do my best to ensure we have it. >> one final question. in the last eight years, the department of justice solicitor's general of...

And north carolina's legislature turned completely red for the first time since reconstruction. and that, of course, has brought about not only the voting rights role back that has made north carolina nationally famous this year, and the abortion rights role back and the short-lived attempt to establish a state religion in the state. remember that one? it's also been a wildly aggressive approach to budgeting in the state, spearheaded by the guy who made it all possible for the republicans, spearheaded by art pope, the architect of the north carolina republican takeover, but who is also the sta...

His network targeted, they won 18 of the 22. that's an 82% win rate. and north carolina's legislature turned completely red for the first time since reconstruction. and that, of course, has brought about not only the voting rights rollback that has made north carolina nationally famous this year, and the abortion rights rollback and the short-lived attempt to establish a state religion in the state. remember that one? it's also been a wildly aggressive approach to budgeting in the state, spearheaded by the guy who made it all possible for the republicans, spearheaded by art pope, the architect...

Some of those on the chamber of commerce. >> the chamber moved from a 43% win rate during the conservative -- during the conservative burger court to a 56% win rate under the very conservative rehnquist court and now they are at a 70% win rate under the roberts' court. follow this pro business trend to its logical conclusion and sooner or later you will end up with a supreme court that functions as a wholly owned subsidiary of the chamber of commerce. >> robert gibbs, i'm sure elizabeth warren's finding and you've seen it and i've seen it, you've seen it as a democrat, i've seen it as a republ...