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and a moderator. he praised each other and bashed the mainstream media. >> no shortage of hit pieces on you in the press over the last week or two. >> i thinks this is a function of these, the legacy media, these corporate journal -- they're in their little bubble. >> i saw a headline from the atlantic basically claiming that anyone who listens to this space on twitter basically a nazi. howard: but by then they'd lost half their audience, so why did ron desantis roll the dice on twitter not blowing up like a spacex rocket? he's hardly a big fan of the mainstream media and not a great...

And i think a big purpose turning point was when you started hearing the far left saying use the 14th amendment, sir, and the freedom caucus saying we don't like any of this. you knew it was going to be a centrist deal between the two parties. howard: right. and some of the most hard-line conservative members have already said they hate this deal, they probably weren't going to vote for it because it didn't have everything each side wanted which is why when the vote happens, connect mccarthy may need some democratic votes. >> i think there's no question about that. but i think if the president...