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One. >> i could tell it was painful for my dad. i don't remember feeling the same pain. >> it was another one of those numb painful things, and i just looked at my sister-in-law and said something like take care of my son, and i walked out. it was like a two-minute visit, should have been two hours. >> on advice of one of the prison counsellors i tried to further my education. and i got a bachelor's in psychology. and that was intriguing, because so many of the people inside seemed to be psych patients. so that had a little concrete immediate use. >> we were on the win unit for

About ten years together. then he graduated from sam houston to the college program and he went down to ramsey unit for the master's program down there from university of housto houston. >> the ramsey unit's maybe 30 to 50 miles south of houston. but it's about 30 or 50 years back on the calendar. it's an agricultural unit. i thought i was in pretty good shape when i went there. i'd been lifting weights and running for a number of years. and i was 44 years old when i went to the fields for the first time. it just about killed me. i can laugh now. but when you're new to it, it's real hot and hu...