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Manager's office saying can someone help me evacuate. they had to tell them sorry, at this point you have to she wanter in place because we can't come and do evacuations right now. we know they are prepared. they've done this before. they know it will flood. they know this is just the beginni beginning. i just stepped off of a curve. people were driving and enjoying this beautiful river front park, they have 700 people, plus the national guard, who are in this ready to act right after florence hits. whether or not they're going to get to them as this becomes -- right now they said don't count ...

National television. the question, as you point out, is whether there was a crime committed, and we're not going to know the answer until special counsel mueller finishes his work. leland: as rudy giuliani will tell you many times, there is that rule in the justice department that you don'tish is shoe politically-sensitive indictments 60 days before an election. that window closes in september, so we may not know in terms of any type of final conclusions of the mueller investigation. the one thing we do know right now is about sort of this split in the democratic party. you've got democratic s...

This can go away very quickly when lawmakers get back and you talk to the republicans traditionally in situations like this, very quiet, waiting -- >> they're waiting for the window that margaret is talking about, right now there is a window. in a way they're waiting, it seems, for where public opinion settles, right? when that window closes. >> i think also -- this is in dealing with the republican comments about the house and the senate every single day, understand this isn't necessarily one, they understand the political moment, right now. they're not -- also, this isn't something where i t...

And house proud. and we get that. i get it. i get why they don't want to leave home, but what is the message to them about the burden they might become by making the choice they think is the right one for them. >> we tell them, you should be safe, not sorry. but what they have to realize sf and we're telling them is that at a certain point, starting like tomorrow night when this hurricane really comes in and on sunday morning, our first responders will not be here. there will be no public services for them. there will be no one for them to call. they need to listen and get to a shelter because...

Nuclear weapons attached to them and it is truly an irreversible situation. we're living in this window and it is dangerous and there's danger of miscalculation. there's danger of the u.s. thinking it can slip in and attack before the window closes and the situation going badly. so it is a lot of calculations to be made. >> well, it has to be closely run. and i'm not sure this president can do it. thank you for that cold, cold, factual report. up next, bannon is back. news the former chief strategist has met with a congressman from north carolina and is said to be laying the groundwork for an ...