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>> you're sitting up here looking at a neighborhood and saying, like, why is the crime rate high, why is this happening, but then you see no jobs, no education but barely holding on. and then you see no -- when we talk about it, we talk about food justice as well. all of those are major components that come into the violence that happens here. >> we taped that interview in our town hall on a thursday. it aired the next day on friday. on saturday, rachel williams lost another one to gun violence. this time it was her 11-year-old cousin, killed by a stray bullet right in front of her 3-year-old ...

It's not normal. >> extraordinary report from, theremane lee. chicago gets talked about as this sort of national sound bite. you've spent a lot of times for a book you're working on and with us reporting on this. what is one of the biggest misconceptions about gun violence in chicago. >> i think there are a number of things. it's easy to zmis these communities as bad neighbors. oftentimes we're saying these are bad people and bad things are supposed to happen to bad people in bad neighbors. we tend to think of raw numbers and we do it in chicago and across the country how many have been shot, ...

Oftentimes we're saying these are bad people and bad things are supposed to happen to bad people in bad neighbors. we tend to think of raw numbers and we do it in chicago and across the country how many have been shot, how many have been killed. but when you spend time in a community that is gun weary, a family who has lost a member to gun violence you realize our calculation is way off. speaking to the mother and the campbell family, there's a deep hole in them, a piece that will never be filled. those outside who think that they're gang bangers and thugs and all these epithets we use to desc...

>> we taped that interview in our town hall on a thursday. it aired the next day on friday. on saturday, rachel williams lost another one to gun violence. this time it was her 11-year-old cousin, killed by a stray bullet right in front of her 3-year-old brother and her mother, leaving yet another chicago family traumatized. our trymaine lee visited that family and others for this report on chicago, a city in trauma. >> we heard gunshots that sounded like you know how light a pack of firecrackers and somebody dropped them by your feet. that's how close they sounded. on the very last shot, the w...