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That guy is getting rich off shady deals, that guy is get being rich offer shady deals. am i the sucker? you see people act in ways they wouldn't normally because everyone around them is acting -- >> so grift metastecises. there is a sense in which there are a whole bunch of people who are complicit in not only undermining the basic norms of democracy, but really dismantling the ways in which this place works, the ways in which government works. trump is its face. he's the carnival barker, but there's all of this stuff underneath that's happening. >> it can't be just him. they're broken window...