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Though securing a perimeter, you risk him turning around and taking -- firing on an officer. they're not behind bulletproof glass or anything. their cars are probably in range of that pistol. what do you make of it? >> what i make of it is i can't even believe what i'm hearing. you see what this officer did. you see this windshield crash, you see him drive straight into a wall which under any other circumstance, would like fast and furious 8. this is not a police tactic this is no tactic. you hear what the other policeman says in the first camera which is don't go there, don't go there, he's g...

His life. does this make sense? is this justified if you save their life doing it? >> it is easy for me to money morning quarterback it in the chair. i have to question the tactic. i think setting up a secure perimeter and making some attempt to negotiate may have been far more efficient. here is another angle to this. the officer who hits the suspect there also looks -- hits what looks to be like a cinder block wall so he is creating a danger for himself too. so on balance, it would be better to set a perimeter. >> so you risk him turning around and taking -- firing on an officer and they are...