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We're trying to get it -- this could have huge ramifications politically if the supreme court agrees to hear this case over the next year, two years possibly, just in so many different races. >> sure, no question. i would say, you know, you look at those states -- i was looking at the map just now, those states are eight or nine of the most conservative states in terms of their voting patterns. i don't think it's any huge surprise those are the places we are seems movement to restrict abortion rights. at the same time i think it's fascinating where you have same-sex marriage, the position -- t...

The lines? >> so you equate homosexuality with polygamy. >> no, that's not the argument. the argument is being made by those wants to redefine marriage saying it's all based on love. isn't that the argument they're using? >> all right. >> if that's the case, where you do you draw the boundaries? that's all i'm asking. >> tony perkins of the family research counsel 8, we appreciate you sharing your views. thank you. >> all right. i guess -- david petraeus makes his -- hiring our heroes, a unique job fair. this is "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. [ male announcer ] i've seen incredible...

Clearly an important vote on this, i think, and the author of the case that kind of opened the door for marriage rights, the lawrence case, and if one had to make a judgment about where he stood today, one would seem to -- one would conclude he was leaning towards knocking down doma. >> mass i mo, my grandmother, italian grandmother, will probably say something mad at me for butchering your name. i apologize for that. >> no problem. >> jonathan, thanks so much for being on the show today. what political story will make headlines in the next 24 hours? that is next on "andrea mitchell reports....

As the questioning methods, and we can have that debate at another time. what do you fear the most about a couple bringing -- a same-sex couple being together for over 60 years as we saw in the windsor case. what do you fear about them getting the same federal benefits for their marriage as an opposite-sex couple would? >> i don't fear anything. the question is, as you said this interview up -- >> why are you opposed? >> as you set up this package interview, people ought to be able to marry who they love. if love becomes a definition of what the boundaries of marriage are, how do we define tha...

Their tax rates are low. the middle class is disappearing and they are in a lot of trouble. the wealthy and large corporations must be asked to play a significant role in deficit reduction. we must not not social security. that's clearly what the american people believe. and the president, democrats have got to hold firm and when they do, it will finally be the republicans that come to the table rather than just the democrats coming in as has been the case in the past. bernie sanders, appreciate your time. coming up, the fight over the fiscal cliff is putting american jobs at risk. one of ...