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Home, and for ten years, no one did anything or saw anything or suspect anything. >> the castro case reminded me in a weird way of jerry sandusky case, the penn state assistant coach who was such a serial child abuser and all i could do and think in both cases, is there is evil in the world. >> absolutely. >> and no explaining. i don't know what causes it, but there are people who are stone cold evil. >> the second log of the castro case is the sentencing where you see him. to build on the evilness and all the people we perceive as evil in their mind are self-justified. if you saw castro's sta...

Your point i think it was right one. >> well, thank you, sunny. i have no response to that. laugh will have. >> the wheels came off the bus with rachel jeantel with that particular jury. >> this case was so racially device and we haven't seen something like this since o.j. and here is the thing. i think this is where we disagreed a lot. mark and i are criminal defense attorneys and if you want to make the case race is an issue, we'll agree with you. we see it every day. when we walk in prison and mark and i have been to many. most of the people in there are young males of color. something is g...

>> clearly a busy year. we sat down for highlights and low points. >> joining us, mark geragos, sunny hoosten, mark toobin and d dan danny. >> the most interesting was the zimmerman case for the way it gained momentum and it was a reverse o.j. as angry as whites were at the o.j. verdict, you had the reverse phenomenon with the zimmerman and martin, so i think that one clearly brought up all kinds of great issues i think for people to talk about and to me, at least, it was the most compelling. >> you were the only one that seemed surprised by the verdict. >> i was. and i'm still surprised by it...

Trying to answer both. so break this down for us, jeff. this is really interesting. a couple weeks ago we have a judge down in washington appointed by or nominated by george w. bush who says this will not stand. we can't hoover up this meta data and keep it forever. this judge here in new york two weeks later appointed by clinton disappoi disappoigree disagrees. >> i've never seen something pre sicily like this. you have two judges, exactly the same legal issue inside a couple weeks deciding it completely differently. i think the big difference is that the judge here in new york said there's a...

The day. castro is no longer with us so that diminished the interest. has there ever been anything so bizarre, three women shackled in an attic for not one year, two years, ten years. what were you doing ten years ago and make that the marker and go wow, they have been upstairs on the third floor since that day. >> an interesting thing that came to that case is it gave renewed hope to parents and relatives that have these missing -- >> i can see that -- >> there is hope they are still alive. >> there is hopement that's something that came out of it and also, what is crazy to me is you're talki...