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Criminal statute that a lot of folks were saying, how come this is all about obstructing official proceedings? because what it really is about is stopping a peaceful transfer of power. covered thins basically -- >> wing nuts, rememember it kel >> well. >> this seems to be an attack on the constitution and peaceful transfer of power. prosecution rolled out they have tape of saying "thus always to tyrants" what booth shouted out for shooting abraham lincoln. him taking the stands, the highest-stakes moments of this, but fascinating to see how their allegation they were only there at peacekeepers...

The republican party that they know, they know how dangerous and how bad it is, and they still signed those papers and signed along with whatever donald trump tells them to do. >> exactly. they all know. all except the most extreme wing nuts know perfectly well what they're doing, and they know it's wrong. but they do it for orange jesus. they do it because donald trump is -- they see donald trump as the master of the republican base, and if he gets mad at them, their career is potentially probably over, and so they do it out of that fear. it is stunning how craven republicans have been in the...

Is say reaction to it. and republican senators on the general opinion page leading with an editorial this morning talking about how badly republican senate candidates are doing in some of the key swing states putting the blame where the blame belongs with donald trump would lost the house for republicans in '18, lost the senate for republicans and lost the white house in '20. and katty kay, you look at what has been happening for joe biden, and on the other side of it, the republicans, it is dizzying how many bad mistakes they've made. and it is not just the wing nuts and the crazies, in state...

See the political dialogue tone down and not demonize everyone for not seeing things the way you see them and not instill fear in people because those right wing or left wing, you name it, they have wing nuts on both sides and they're sitting there seething and waiting and looking for someone to blame. >> yeah. what type of challenges do law enforcement face? i mean, trying to track down and stop someone like this before an attack, is that -- obviously there can be red flags. police can get involved. but we live in a free country. you can't just hold somebody because they seem -- seem nuts. >>...

Go ahead, john. >> one of the rumors is that it could be ginni thomas, the wife of clarence thomas, trying to force the hand of kavanaugh, because there has been reporting that brett kavanaugh has gotten a little squishy on this issue and chief justice roberts is trying to work on him. jimmy tennis is a perfect possibility, i'm not saying she didn't, but as long as he's wing nuts are going to say people like soon to be justice, ketanji brown jackson did it, which is insane, but you know it could be ginni thomas. while we're talking about investigations, amen, why is chief justice roberts not i...