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Approach should be to mueller. the white house lawyers said and reassured the president, this is going to be over soon. you're going to be exonerated. there are people around the president, the steve bannons, the other people outside of the white house who say this is a threat. you need to hit back and take a more aggressive tone. to this point, for the most part, the president has not gone after mueller. i think we saw he hinted like well, i'm at least considering the other option. >> right. he wouldn't go quite far enough. >> not yet. >> mike allen, go ahead. >> one of the great things about...

Now you have set yourself a situation. you want to call it a red line, you call it whatever you want. but now he's going to have to do something, and we heard, senator ron johnson, he is here to talk health care, but said, hey, look, they can't threaten us like that. of course. of course you don't want to be threatened. but what are you going to do, what do these words mean? how much meat has to be put on those bones for the american people? >> well, that's what everyone is waiting to find out. it was a red line. and the failure of strategic patience doesn't call for some off-the-cuff remarks ...

Anti-election hacking thing? >> i can only imagine that rex tillerson, who's very well aware that many of his former colleagues in the energy industry, who got hacked in the last few weeks by, now we know, somewhat declassified russian sources have declassified our energy infrastructure, rex tillerson must have been tortured during this meeting. i can tell you, ali, that before this meeting occurred, i am sure that dan coats, mike rogers of the cia, h.r. mcmaster, these folks did not know that this was going to be an outcome of this meeting. this was part of donald trump winging it, and thinki...

And he brought along trump campaign's manager paul manafort and son-in-law jared kushner. donald trump jr. says he did not know the name of the person he would be meeting. but his account of the meeting was shifted since it was first reported. now the senate wants to question him about what happened. peter alexander is here. peter, to be clear, if one hasn't been following this story, much of the interest has been that donald trump jr.'s response to this has changed twice since he first responded to it in public. >> reporter: that's exactly right. the first time he was asked about this was bac...

Himself. it is notable that during that briefing today, the white house again tried to build a sort of wall around donald trump. we've heard from the president's son, donald trump jr. and from the president's outside counsel saying president trump was unaware of this meeting having taken place last june, that the president was not in attendance. today sarah huckabee sanders said she was under the impression that the president didn't even know about this meeting taking place until just a couple of days ago. >> the whole thing is hard to believe, that the president wouldn't have been told. but t...