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Likely determine whether the house oversight committee actually attempts to vote on a contempt citation against the attorney general for failure to turn over records. now today, again, holder basically said that his top staff did not know about the tactics in fast and furious. >> neither mr. brewer, nor mr. weinstein had information about the use of -- they were, in fact, assured that gun-walking tactics were not employed with regard to operation fast and furious. >> reporter: now, this is a copy of the department of justice's manual on how to handle wiretap applications. it is 200 pages long,...

Let's talk about it with katy p a alich. the author of fast and furious barack obama's famous cover occupy. jon: what does this tell us? >> we are not talking about one wiretap here, we are talking about at least six of them. what that means is law enforcement tools require that you can't apply for a wiretap until you've exhausted all other techniques of getting information in an investigation. in order to commit a wiretap application for approval you have to commit excruciating details about a case. in this case, lanny brewer from the beginning of the scandal said he wasn't aware of the quest...

Testimony in the house getting very heated, some republicans accuse the justice department of a cover up. well, now general holder and democrats are responding. william la jeunesse who's been on this story from the beginning joins us live from los angeles. william? >> reporter: jon, it's been less contentious than previous appearances by the ag, and yet after a yearlong investigation there is no clear evidence that the attorney general was aware that one of his agencies, the atf, was deliberately helping criminals run guns across the border. however, republicans claim the department of justice...

And furious were known. they were known and are contained in these wiretaps. i understand you've read these wiretaps since we've brought them tour attention, is that correct. >> i have read them and i disagree with the conclusion you just reached. >> let me go threw a very simple line of questioning if i may, mr. attorney general, james cole, deputy attorney general has written that the department has a greater obligation than just check the legal sufficiency and approving wiretap application. he thinks that applications also have to apply with doj policy, is that correct? >> applications have...