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Administration will go so locked down people won't have any idea what is going on. >> they'll try to do what every administration does, go after leakers. barack obama started more leak investigations using the espionage act of 1917 than all presidents combined to stop leaks and he couldn't do it. look, the business of journalism is all about leaks and our country depends on leaks as a check and balance on power. a powerful president, a president who abuses his power, a corporation, that's why we're in business. so to focus attention on leakers and leaks is really to miss the point here. everyt...

Week. national security advisor h.r. mcmaster called the story as reported false. yesterday he doubled down defending the president. >> it's wholly appropriate for the president to share the information he thinks is necessary to secure the safety of the american people. that's what he did. it was wholely appropriate. i should just make maybe the statement here that the president wasn't even aware of where this information came from. he wasn't briefed on the source and method of the information, either. >> shannon: they're very carefully choosing your words when you are out there defending the ...

Others don't. that's true to an extent. wouldn't others be privy to this information, any wiretap information that the president says he has without providing any evidence of that at all? >> poppy, i was former assistant director at the bureau. a fisa wire is very close hold in the government. there would be a handful of fbi agents and only the fbi is authorized to do a fisa wiretap, and then those affidavits with department of justice attorneys from the national security division present that to the visa court. again, this is all top secret, very close hold. so a number of officials at the wh...

It's chronicled for the first time, and joining me the author of the piece, associate professor of communications at springfield college. he had been invited to the college. but what, the college was getting pressure from the fbi not to have him? why? >> that's right. there was quite an effort on the part of the fbi to discredit king, and that extended all the way to this little campus of springfield college. so much so, that there were fbi memos that i located that indicated that there was pressure brought to bear on the college president to uninvite martin luther king. >> what kind of pressu...

Southern california, arizona or new mexico, we are not exactly clear where the application came from, but we know it was a federal prosecutor in that part of the country, did he just have no curiosity about what was going on and say yes? the bottom line here is the evidence keeps mounting that the justice department knew, people in the justice department with significant authority knew about this sooner in time than they have told congressman issa who is on the screen now, or congressman smith, who was just interrogating the attorney general. jon: they knew about it, apparently and were lookin...