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>> it without getting into the weeds here, what with the president know if there were pfizer order were a wiretap order on the candidate for president? i just have a little time left. >> i think it is unlikely. generally the white house in a very sensitive matter would want to insulate itself from any political influence on requesting national security, wiretaps or surveillance orders. it is very unlikely that there would have been any white house involvement, certainly for an order like this to be approved it is a federal judge, a court that approves it. >> but the attorney general is involve...

Weeds here, what with the president know if there were pfizer order were a wiretap order on the candidate for president? i just have a little time left. >> i think it is unlikely. generally the white house in a very sensitive matter would want to insulate itself from any political influence on requesting national security, wiretaps or surveillance orders. it is very unlikely that there would have been any white house involvement, certainly for an order like this to be approved it is a federal judge, a court that approves it. >> but the attorney general is involved. and here we have a president...

Facebook, myspace, twitter, online gaming, skype, all let you and friends talk directly to one another. but bad guys are using the new technologies, too. to operate beyond the reach of court ordered wiretaps. >> we have criminals running around that we can't arrest and can't prosecute because we can't execute a wiretap order. this criminal may be a drug dealer, a child pornographer or a child molester. >> reporter: in one case they were able to take down a cocaine smuggling operation, but the same criminal organization is still trafficking weapons because its electronic communications could no...

Any of those suspected phone numbers, they would have to go to court and get a wiretap order. remember, the records we're looking at are backwards. looking back in time. if you want to look forward, that data doesn't exist. >> mike rogers said they didn't use this technology, which may have been longstanding, to stop one of the terrorist attacks. do we know that yet? >> that's what he said. he says he's trying to get the government to declassify when it was used to see if more can be said about it, and the obama administration is struggling with what more they can say about it. i think what's ...

Where the two phone numbers were, the people with those cell phones, for example, were. but nothing was recorded then. you can't dip back into the data and say, i want to listen to this phone call that happened on such and such a time. that doesn't exist. if they want to do a wiretap on any of those suspected phone numbers, they would have to go to court and get a wiretap order. remember, the records we're looking at are backwards. looking back in time. if you want to look forward, that data doesn't exist. >> mike rogers said they didn't use this technology, which may have been longstanding, t...