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Negative attention that's going towards the president. >> though the white house has said and will say that steve bannon has cut all ties with breitbart and that's where things stand now. >> they will most certainly say that. >> great to see you, dillon. coming up for us, the wiretap walkback. no, not a new dance move. it's what the white house seems to be doing right now. you could also call it the air quote defense as they work to defend president trump's accusation that president obama wiretapped him. details on that ahead. plus, secretary of state rex tillerson used an alias to e-mail ...

When it comes to the president's claim he was wiretapped by president obama, it now comes down to air quotes. wiretap or "wiretapped." that's how it played out in the press briefing room yesterday with sean spicer. >> when should americans trust the president? is it phony or real when he says that president obama was wiretapped? >> again, let's get back. i think there's two things that are important about what he said. i think recognizing that it's the -- he doesn't really think that president obama went up and tapped his phone personally. but i think there's a -- there's no question that the ...

The moments after the president tweeted this explosive claim? >> well, i think it was probably an inelegant word wiretap. but we've heard time and time again that some of the communications errors are unforced errors. this is another example of it. if he had just been more clear from the very start we would have avoided this entirely. >> would we have avoided this entirely, tim? >> i don't think this is an unforced error. this is the strategic value of trump. and if you are a trump supporter like harlan, i think you would just own it and defend it. donald trump doesn't really value truth or ac...