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Intelligence agencies have acknowledged publicly, that's stunning to me. >> ambassador woolsey, you heard sara murray's report. why can't the president separate election tampering and how threatening this is to our future elections from investigations of collusion? >> i don't know. i think the two previous speakers are right, and my overall impression here is you ain't seen nothing yet. the russians will top up their efforts to undercut our whole way of life and our whole political structure. they go after religions as well, the catholic church, jewish groups. they call it disinformation. what...

He still can't bring himself to acknowledge what 17 intelligence agencies have acknowledged publicly, that's stunning to me. >> ambassador woolsey, you heard sara murray's report, why can't the president separate election tampering and how threatening this is to our future elections from investigations of collusion? >> i don't know. my -- i think the two previous speakers were right and my overall impression here is you ain't seen nothing yet. the russians will top up their efforts to undercut our whole way of life and our whole political structure. they go after religions as well, the catholi...

Attorney. if you're robert mueller digging through your trash, wouldn't you want to do that too? >> sure. i mean, what's wrong with hiring a lawyer? >> yeah. so from your perspective, though, you've seen a lot of this stuff, you've watched this unfold, the investigation into the trump people's alleged ties to russia. what do you see as an intelligence person? are we in early days, are we halfway through the game, are we getting to the end of it, are you seeing anything that seems troublesome or more smoke than fire. >> sure, troublesome. russians are never not interfering with the neighbors. e...

Executive branch? >> i think in part what's happened is that people who opposed him and who opposed his general approach to things and some don't oppose his policies as much as they oppose his personality, has created a situation where we are not focusing on the things that we have to focus on. take russia, for example. we have a situation where russia is never not interfering with our elections. and with the elections of other democratic states. they call it disinformation. >> but didn't it strike you, jim, as odd? i agree with you, i thought the most interesting testimony that comey gave was...

May have meddled in the u.s. election. what do you make of this? >> well, the russians have been meddling in our elections and everybody's elections for decades. they call it disinformation. this is -- it's part of a massive -- they're much more involved in that. they spend more time and money and people on that than stealing secrets. >> you're right about that. what do you think of the timing? what do you think -- now he is saying maybe. >> i don't know. i think he wants to have an earlier statement on cnn, i think he wants it both ways. he wants people to understand but he also doesn't want ...