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Excuse me, i'm speaking. excuse me, wait a moment. my point is it's not whether we know something illegal happened. it's whether this smells and the answer is it does. >> you said one thing that's true. the russians are always working to undermine our electoral system. they call it disinformation. it's continually something they're doing. what's new is not that the russians were disrespecting or trying to disrupt our electoral system. what's new is that they were doing it in part with cyber and that create as lot more complexity. i think there's nothing untoward about having back channel commu...

My point is, it's not whether we know something illegal happened. it's whether this smells, and the answer is it does. >> okay. you says one thing that's true. the russians are always working to undermine our electoral system as well as that of europeans and other democratic countries. they call it disinformation. it's continually something they're doing. what's new is not that the russians were disrupting or trying to disrupt our electoral system. what's new was that they were doing it in part with cyber. and that creates a lot more complexity. but i think there's nothing untoward about havin...

Missile test would actually be more the united states. barbara starr, thank you so, so much at the pentagon. >> sure. >> thanks so much for being with me. i'm brooke baldwin. let's send things down to washington, d.c. "the lead" with jake tapper starts right now. thanks, brooke. two top trump advisers refusing to comply with the russia investigation. "the lead" starts right now. cnn exclusive reporting that this the russian sources say were caught on intercepts bragging about possessing something damaging to donald trump and his campaign. was this just boasting? was it disinformation? or was...

And protect american interests not corporate interests. the fact that buzzfeed and cnn made the decision to run with this unsubstantiated claim is a sad and pathetic attempt to get clicks. >> as far as buzzfeed, which is a failing pile of garbage, writing it, i think they're going to suffer the consequences. they already are. >> welcome back to mpt daily, that was the president-elect as well as the president-elect's white house press secretary, lashing out at buzzfeed after it published a dossier that had been circulating among reporters and government officials since the summer. and as we r...

On what probably is publicly available information that the russians are putting out. they call it disinformation which means lying. if that tilts one way or the other interesting to note the russians go after everybody, jews, catholics, disinformation system is quite something. it disses a lot of people and a lot of institutions. we need to understand that but not get too excited talking about some groups more than others. martha: rex tellers and's relationship with vladimir putin, what do you think of that? >> it is a nothing burger. i think he got an award, friendship award which is given t...