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To the convention in los angeles they were upset about joe kennedy and the mafia and ze not like him because he was catholic. in southern paptist churches saying kennedy is the antichrist. julily was pit on because nobody liked her. there was always been -- you could call it it hatred. half of the country hates my dad, half of the country loves my country. he says it will be like that with the president. >> in listening to president trump today, he gave the specific list of things he going to accomplish. and these are the things he has been saying on the campaign trail. this is why people vote...

Fall victim to this? is it hatred, is it a lack of understanding and education? what is it that allows them to be recruited in such vast numbers? >> well, that is exactly the $64,000 question, right? and it's a little unbelievable that 14 years after 9/11, right, we still don't really have a good answer for that. the bush administration's answer as you remember was that a lack of political freedom in the middle east cause this is growth in radicalism. but i think increasingly there is a feeling that somehow these sort of terrorist attacks and this sort of draw towards these ideologies are just...

You have to look at what are the other emotions going on within that person to drive that motive to take a number of other people with them. is it rage? is it vengeance? is it hatred? does he have an ax to grind with certain population, with the airline, issues in his past. that's what we don't know and they never know. >> it's been reported but not confirmed but reported in germany that at one point, he suffered from depression. but here's a question. the airlines rely on self-reporting. >> right. >> should that change? >> i think it has to change, because you're in an industry where it's ver...

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Reports about not conducting appropriate interviews, doing appropriate background checks and what have you. if he was working for the government. if he was given an i.d., what kind of background check was done? >> i know they said pretty forcefully there is no reason to believe it 's tees te's ter erry haven't ruled it out. in this case, is it hatred against the military or perhaps a disgruntled employee considering he had been in the navy? would those be your areas of initial thought? >> yes, john. you don't eliminate any reason why he did this. it could be as much timpl as workplace violence...