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Exploring issues that affect leaders in the U. S. And around the globe. Exploring issues that affect leaders in the U. S. And around the globe. Or distorted what happened in the election campaign. But what is Donald Trumps core point that he wants to say even more than no collusion, no collusion, no collusion . It didnt change a vote. So this is a problem. So if they had stepped up their game in 2016 and the Obama Administration was asleep at the switch, maybe they did change some votes. Trump is not stupid well, i wont say stupid or not. Trump wants to deny that russia could have had an influ...

Reason, trump will declare a victory. i think at that point he could really be unleashed. this thing has gone on too long, it is a witch hunti, i'm firing them witch hunt. on the other hand, if manafort is convicted, then suddenly it's hard to say if the campaign chairman was convicted of serious crimes, that the whole thing a witch hunt and then manafort could flip after conviction if he doesn't like the idea of this real serious jail sentence. then you're really, with cohen flipping and manafort, you could be off to the races on trump tower and all that. the trial will be over in a couple we...

As they say or do they not like each other. i would like to offer a different view on whether donald trump is -- i think he was really embarrassed by this double screen. he's been saying he doesn't trust american intelligence officers, he doesn't trust the doj, he doesn't trust robert mueller, so for him it is absolutely a possibility that this kind of indictment would only take him closer into the arms of vladimir putin. >> what is at risk if he goes down and sits down with vladimir putin and there's only translators there, there's no note takers. >> and i think there are going to say look at...

Someone he talks to fairly regularly is joining the legal team he confirmed this week. now, this latest edition comes after a slew of departures and false starts when it comes to the president and his lawyers but it also represents a change of strategy here. giuliani says he's joining the team in part to bring this mueller investigation to a more rapid close and he's going to start by asking the special counsel what they want in terms of documents and trying to provide them to them as soon as possible. now, giuliani is not just the former new york mayor but is also a former u.s. attorney and s...

Why they have to wrap this up and interview him. whether he has something of substance, based on what we have seen, it looks unlikely. and i assume mr. mueller feels the same. but you'd never know. >> right. and that's an interesting point, right? this is what donald trump calls a witch hunti. the fact robert mueller is asking all these people. the president is saying this is a witch hunt. if i ask for all communications with everybody else you'll find something incriminating. >> you can understand calling ia witch hunt when you go far afield. but once you have a special prosecutor, he or she ...