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>> can you just answer that question. >> yes. >> how do we know that there's not bias in the fbi in this particular investigation or other investigations? how do we know that? >> sir, the way you do that is exactly what you suggested. you look to the evidence. you look to the actions of the men and women of the fbi in the conduct of their cases. you look to my actions in the conduct of the investigations. you have done with others a spectacular job of equating the word "bias" with personal political belief and it's astounding how well that's been. but you know they're not the same. >> reclaimi...

>> have you ever spoke with daniel jones? >> no. >> do you know mr. jones at all? >> i do not. >> all right. i want to go back to one more question i asked you the first round, mr. strzok. mr. simpson, when he did testify in front of the senate judiciary committee was asked about fusion. no one from fusion ever spoke with the fbi. is there any way that that contradicts what's in the e-mail that i've been referencing with you? >> i don't know. i can tell you i have not spoken to mr. simpson. >> you've not spoken to mr. simpson. >> i asked you that the first time. all right. i thank the chairman...

Opportunity to respond. >> the gentleman will suspend. the time of the gentleman has expired. >> the rules of our hearings are if there is a question asked during the time, the witness may respond to the question after the time. >> the witness is going to be allowed to respond briefly. >> that's a new rule. >> sir, first, i assure you -- >> no question. >> -- under oath as i spoke also during my interview a week or two ago, i have always told the truth. the fact that you would accuse me otherwise, the fact that you would question whether or not that was the sort of look i would engage with in ...

Answer. stand by, sir, again, please. sorry about the time. sir, again, i'm sorry. i would like to answer that question but at the direction of the fbi because it relates to an ongoing operational matter, i can't. >> let's go back to the e-mail. i just want to make sure i understand this. it sounds like you're saying comparing now, it sounds like there are three copies, but two different versions. the set you are examining and referencing to your colleagues you say is identical to what mccain had. again referring to the dossier. and then you're saying the one from corn and simpson, you won't t...

Cases? how do we know that? >> i'd ask -- >> the time of the gentleman has expired and the gentleman may answer the question. >> hopefully without interruption. >> sir, the way you judge that is what i said. you look at the evidence. you look at the acts. what fbi agents and analysts and everybody else do. you look at what i did. you look at what the inspector general concluded, not only me but all the agents and assistant directors and eads and dds and everybody involved in the investigation and you see that the evidence unequivocally is there is no act of bias. so this false assertion that y...