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Everybody does. >> kind of. i kind of had an idea. >> but it -- >> i didn't really know. >> the thing people do not understand about starting a show is it becomes something -- whatever you think it's going to be, you don't really know until you actually start -- >> mike tyson said it best, everybody's got a plan until they get punched in the face. >> yes. >> and that's what it is. >> no, but it's true, and you are doing it without a net, in front of a, you know, everybody's commenting on it. >> sure. >> but, yeah, it does seem like you found the mission, the thesis, you did the live show on sh...

Is it becomes something -- whatever you think it's going to be, you don't really know until you actually start -- >> mike tyson said it best, everybody's got a plan until they get punched in the face. >> yes. >> and that's what it is. >> no, but it's true, and you are doing it without a net, in front of a, you know, everybody's commenting on it. >> sure. >> but, yeah, it does seem like you found the mission, the thesis, you did the live show on showtime on election night. >> yeah. >> that -- to me, that seemed the turning point, in your mind was it or had you already been thinking -- >> no, ok...

Talking about the president's reaction of what's been said on cable, and a lot of times what's being said on cable is a reaction from previous things being said on cable. this is all presidency. it's a gift for the gods for cable news, and i think someone the other day said, you know, the journalist or whatever, has there been a better time, especially on cable tv, to cover something? you have rudy giuliani out there without a net, flying walendas saying whatever he wants to say. president trump says what he wants to, too. i think we lose sight of it sometimes, but rudy giuliani with no coordi...

Not run for office, this playbook of saying it's not just unfair to say i lost the election, it's fair to question every bit of reality around the election. every story you heard that might have alleged fraud. i think you are going to see that more with insurgent cantidates. no matter if they go out without a net. >> when you are talking about the party's image and someone like roy moore and questioning the turn out in certain counties saying it's unlikely for the democratic voters to turn out in a place like jefferson county where a number of the voters are african-american voters. that can't...

Roughly the length of four football fields in length, again, without a net. joining me is the author of "balance: the story of faith, family, and life on the line." nik wallenda, nice to meet you. i get sick at the thought of this. congratulations. >> thank you so much. >> do you ever get nervous? >> i respect what i do deeply. i get butterflies, i think any great enter taber gets butterflies. it's important to get that level of respect. >> you have that edge. you trained how old were you? >> 2 years old. by 4 i was on my own. >> so this was obviously an amazing task that you were able to comp...