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That we're using for this pressure cooker bomb? >> well, you can use it. under the wmb statute, a bomb of that can be considered a wmb. >> i did not know that. >> there's your terrorism charge, potentially. so, i personally believe terrorism is a form of criminali criminality, should be treated as so. that's not to say there are other tools in the toolbox that should be discounted. for example, if you have something that's considered a national security investigation, you get authority to do things like fiza, national security letters, things like that. those are all valuable intelligence coll...

Title 18 of the u.s. code has a whole list of federal statutes that fall under the auspices of terrorism. for example, what we saw in boston, the reason, i think, why it was easy for people to come out early and say it's terrorism, you had a weapon of mass destruction that was used to kill people. that's -- >> weapon of mass destruction, is that specifically the term that we're using for this pressure cooker bomb? >> well, you can use it. under the wmb statute, a bomb of that can be considered a wmb. >> i did not know that. >> there's your terrorism charge, potentially. so, i personally believ...