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Might still serve jail time and there's nothing biased about that. we need to stop bringing down our legitimate institutions like the judiciary. >> laura: do you think judges are beyond criticism? we shouldn't criticize a judge? i see what we are seeing as a subversion of the american people's will. >> it's not the judges who are activists. it's activists going to the judges because as you point out, congress hasn't done its job. >> laura: jim jordan, it's true congress hasn't done its job on this particular issue. i think not funding the wall is going to go down as one of the worst, worse thi...