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Because the attorney general doesn't agree with him and does recuse himself, doesn't make it obstructionist behavior. but it does speak to the president's state of mind about the russia investigation and how concerned he was about how much mueller might do damage to his presidency and that he needed as they say in the "new york times" article, a roy coen, someone to protect him from mueller. he's concerned about mueller but can't get his attorney general not to obey the law. good for sessions, bad luck for the attorney who has to deliver this message and obviously bad luck for the president be...

It was to say here's per se something that has been asked before. we didn't get -- we only got to the fourth amendment there and at that time he remembered. besides running for president, he was running his business. so i'm not criticizing michael. i like michael. a political book, i believe it's not nonfiction, but on the other hand, they use puffery and try to create a narrative. >> so you did get as far as the fourth amendment. you don't know his motive for becoming disinterested. >> he had a ton of things to do. one other thing in general that i wanted to say that's perhaps not in this boo...

Corroborating his. >> sean spicer denied his, mick mulvaney denied his, so i just want to know where it stops because it's pretty obvious that there are many discrepancies. this is full of false information, inaccuracies, and quite frankly this author is quite frankly a crackpot, fake news fantasy fiction writer and it's been proven time and time again. by his own admission he says he's loose with the facts and journalists say that's his reputation. so let's not run this wall to wall on cnn saying it's all factual, it's not. >> again, what we're saying is this is what the book says and the quo...

Including within that at least two dozen requests of him asking to have an interview with the president, which he never did. >> wolff, though, said he had extraordinary access to trump. he said he was able to take up something like a semi-permanent seat on a couch in the west wing, an idea wolff claims was encouraged by the president himself. wolff says he conducted over 200 interviews over 18 months, says he has tapes and says those interviews include the president himself and most members of the senior staff. also according to axios, the reporting outlet, wolff says some of those conversatio...

This election. i i think he's a man of historic proportions. one of the things he took a quote out of context was he's going to be the most famous man in the world. i support his re-election and hope to be able to donate to him in 2020. my point is anything i told michael, the point was this guy is a very unique, interesting guy. you're not going to see this. the same way you're not going to see another barack obama, you're not going to see another donald trump in the oval office. >> thank you very much for your time. now let's go to our chief analyst gloria borger and richard painter. gloria,...