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Have these lawsuits flying around and things like that? i know that this is great frustration to democrats who look at this san say, how is this happening and how is this not sticking to him. >> the one thing i will say what unifies a lot of stories right now is the question of what we know and don't know. every time we think i now have the full set of facts in front of me, we learn there's new stuff. there's lots of stuff locked up behind ndas, meeting in in the say shell islands. the question is how much more new is there to learn which will ultimately determine the answer to your question. ...

To give us more context about this home mmemo, ned price. special assistant to president obama and senior director of the national security council. also joining me in new york, an attorney and legal analyst and contributor to "essence" magazine. as i see you nodding here. >> exactly. he makes an excellent point. you basically have to ask the question, okay, on today's episode of america's top memo. that's where we are as a country, and you have to ask yourself when you talk about the duelling memos, and i understand why the democrats felt they had to do it, because after you read both memos s...

Volumes. his humility, his faithfulness, his devotion. he was a family man. he was keenly devoted to his family, but then his message. >> laura: i have kind of an odd question, was he funny? i know pat will know this, but that he had a sense of humor? he seems like most of the time so serious and black and white. i love that. was he funny? did he goof around? >> i think the funniest part about daddy bill is that he didn't realize he was funny. that was the funny thing. i think we spent most of our time laughing at him rather than laughing with him because -- he was sort of unconsciously humoro...

Volumes. his humility, his faithfulness, his devotion. he was a family man. he was keenly devoted to his family, but then his message. >> laura: i have kind of an odd question, was he funny? i know pat will know this, but that he had a sense of humor? he seems like most of the time so serious and black and white. i love that. was he funny? did he goof around? >> i think the funniest part about daddy bill is that he didn't realize he was funny. that was the funny thing. i think we spent most of our time laughing at him rather than laughing with him because -- he was sort of unconsciously humoro...

Latter stages of the obama administration and the beginning of this one. i think that bears a serious investigation, as well. i am not, sean, a fan of having another special counsel. they always end up being unaccountable and out of control and they wander very far afield from the original missions and i think they are a bad idea and i was glad when the independent counsel statute was allowed to last been i hope this special counsel process was not being used in the case of mr. term, either. >> sean: brit hume, always good to have you. when we come back, sean spicer, ari fleischer, they weigh ...